CNN互動英語[有聲版]：【時事、新知】開始英語世界的大門 2025年10月號第301期 (電子雜誌)

The Great Equalizer
CNN專訪黃仁勳  談AI的實際應用
Jensen Huang Believes That Artificial Intelligence Boosts Human Capabilities

FAREED ZAKARIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT 
This week, NVIDIA hit a historic milestone. It became the first company in history to hit ＄4 trillion in value, surpassing other tech giants like Apple and Microsoft. The success comes from its computer chips that drive today’s artificial intelligence revolution. They power everything from chatbots like ChatGPT to robotics to self-driving cars. I sat down with the man behind it all: Jensen Huang. 
What do you make of this MIT study where they are … they had people use AI, use just search and not use it, and then at the end of it, they asked them to do cognitive tasks. And the people who had used AI scored the worst, which … It, sort of, makes some intuitive sense: If you rely a lot on a machine to do all the thinking for you, when you’re then asked to think, you know, maybe those muscles have gotten slower. How should we … What would you do in a situation like that? 
JENSEN HUANG, FOUNDER/CEO, NVIDIA
Well, first of all, I haven’t looked at that research yet, but I have to admit I’m using AI literally every single day, and I think my cognitive skills are actually advancing. 
FAREED ZAKARIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT 
Yeah. 
JENSEN HUANG, FOUNDER/CEO, NVIDIA
And so … And the reason for that is because I’m not asking it to think for me. I’m asking it to teach me things that I don’t know or help me solve problems that I otherwise wouldn’t be able to solve reasonably.
For example, the idea of prompting an AI—the idea of asking questions. In order [To] ask good questions—it’s a highly cognitive skill, and as a CEO, I spend most of my time asking questions, and 90% of my instructions are actually, you know, conflated with questions. It is [They are] veiled within questions. And when I’m interacting with AI, it’s a questioning system. You’re asking it questions. And so, I think that in order [to] formulate good questions, you have to be thinking, you have to be analytical [and] you have to be reasoning yourself. 
When you [I] receive an answer from an AI, I wouldn’t [won’t] just receive it. Usually, what I do is I say, “Are you sure this is the best answer you can provide?” I take the answer from one AI, I give it to the other AI, I ask them to critique itself [themselves], and I ask them to compare each other’s notes and then, you know, give me the best of all the answers. And so, I think that process of critiquing, criticizing the answers that you’re … you know, critical thinking enhances cognitive skills. And so, [to] all the people who were taking those tests, I would advise that they apply critical thinking. 
FAREED ZAKARIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT
Dario Amodei, the head of Anthropic, says just … because it’s going to be so revolutionary and so disruptive, you’re going to see a massacre of white-collar jobs—the people who do, you know, all the routine things in accounting, and law and even consulting. What do you think? 
JENSEN HUANG, FOUNDER/CEO, NVIDIA
I would say if the world runs out of ideas, then productivity gains translates to job loss. But over the course of the last 300 years, 100 years, 60 years even—in the era of computers—not only did productivity go up, employment also went up. 
Remember that AI is the greatest technology equalizer we have ever seen. It lifts the people who don’t understand technology. So, AI empowers people. It lifts people. It closes the gap—the technology gap. And as a result, more and more people are gonna be able to do more things. I’m certain [that] 100% of everybody’s jobs will be changed. The work that we do in our jobs will be changed. The work will change. Everybody’s jobs will be affected. Some jobs will be lost. Many jobs’ll be created. And what I hope is that the productivity gains that we see in all the industries will lift society. 
I think the fundamental thing is this: Do we have more ideas left in society? And if we do [and] if we’re more productive, we’ll be able to grow. 
FAREED ZAKARIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT
And, presumably, AI will give us more ideas. 
JENSEN HUANG, FOUNDER/CEO, NVIDIA
That’s right. Exactly.

CNN特派員  法瑞德．札卡利亞
本週，輝達達到一個歷史性的里程碑。它成為史上第一家市值達四兆美元的公司，超越Apple和微軟等其他科技巨擘。這項成功來自其驅動當今人工智慧革命的電腦晶片。它們為從如ChatGPT的聊天機器人到機器人到自駕車等各種東西提供動力。我跟這一切的幕後推手黃仁勳坐下來聊聊。
你怎麼看這項麻省理工學院的研究，研究中他們是……他們讓人們使用AI、只用搜尋和不使用它，然後在研究最後，他們要求他們做認知任務。使用過AI的人得分最差，這……它在某種程度上也蠻直覺合理的：如果你非常仰賴機器替你去做所有的思考，當你之後被要求去思考時，你知道，可能那些肌肉已經變得比較遲鈍了。我們應該怎麼……在像那樣的情況下，你會怎麼做呢？
輝達創辦人暨執行長  黃仁勳
嗯，首先，我還沒看那項研究，但我必須承認，我真的是每一天都會用AI，而我認為我的認知技能實際上在進步。
CNN特派員  法瑞德．札卡利亞
是。
輝達創辦人暨執行長  黃仁勳
所以……那個的原因是因為我不是在要求它去替我思考。我是在要求它教我我不知道的事或幫我解決我原本無法以理智解決的問題。
舉例來說，向AI下指令這個概念──提問這個概念。要提出好的問題──它是一項具高度認知能力的技巧，而作為執行長，我大部分的時間都花在提問，我的指示中有九成其實合併著問題。它們隱藏在問題中。而當我跟AI互動時，這是一個提問系統。你是在問它問題。所以說，我認為，為了構思好的問題，你必須持續思考、你必須善於分析，你也必須自己進行推理。
當我從AI那裡收到一個答案時，我不會只是接受它。通常，我做的是我會說：「你確定這是你能提供的最佳答案嗎？」我會把一個AI的答案給另一個AI，要求它們自己評論，我也要它們交流彼此的意見，然後再給我所有答案中最好的。所以說，我認為那個評論、批評答案的過程，你在……你知道，批判性思維會提升認知技巧。所以說，給所有參加那些測試的人，我會建議他們運用批判性思考。
CNN特派員  法瑞德．札卡利亞
Anthropic的負責人達里奧．阿莫迪說只是……因為它將會是如此有革命性和如此顛覆，你會看到白領工作大量被砍掉──在會計、法律、甚至還有諮詢方面做所有例行工作的人。你怎麼看？
輝達創辦人暨執行長  黃仁勳
我會說，如果世界用光了點子，那麼生產力增加就會轉化為失業。但是在過去三百年、一百年、甚至六十年的時間裡──在電腦的年代──不只生產力提升了，就業也增加了。
記住，AI是我們歷來見過最偉大的科技平等化工具。它提升了不懂科技的人。那麼，AI讓人們有能力。它提升人們。它縮小差距──科技差距。因此，越來越多的人將能夠做更多事情。我確信每個人的工作百分之百會被改變。我們在工作中所做的事情會被改變。工作會變。每個人的工作都會受到影響。有些工作會不見。許多工作會被創造。我希望的是，我們在各行各業中看到的生產力增加將會提升社會。
我認為十分重要的事情是這個：我們的社會中還留有更多點子嗎？如果我們有，而且如果我們更有生產力，我們就能成長。
CNN特派員  法瑞德．札卡利亞
而且想必AI會給我們更多點子。
輝達創辦人暨執行長  黃仁勳
沒錯。正是如此。

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